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THE INCLUSION PODCAST

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In each 15-minute episode, we dive into the heart of inclusive education, offering expert insights, real-world strategies, and answers to burning questions on how to make every classroom welcoming for all students, PreK-12. From redefining what special education is (and isn’t) to understanding Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) and exploring cutting-edge co-teaching practices, we cover the essential topics that help schools transform.

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Finding the Just Right Challenge: Introducing the Zigzag Equalizer

In this episode, Julie and Kristie take on a question that educators are often asked to justify excluding students with disabilities: “But what will they get out of this class?” Through real-life stories—including a powerful example of Stephanie's success with Romeo and Juliet—they reveal why this question is misguided and provide 20 practical responses to advocate for inclusion

Two Legal Cases That Changed Inclusion Forever

In this episode, Julie and Kristie break down two landmark court cases that have shaped inclusive education: Roncker v. Walter and Endrew F. You'll learn how the Roncker portability test supports bringing services directly into general education settings and how Endrew F. raised the standard for meaningful educational progress. Discover how these legal principles can empower you to advocate for students with disabilities and strengthen inclusive practices in your school.

Why Resource Rooms Aren't Working (And What to Do Instead)

In this episode, Julie and Kristie take a critical look at resource rooms and why they often fall short of supporting students with disabilities. From social isolation to lowered expectations, they discuss the real-world challenges and myths surrounding these segregated supports. You’ll also learn actionable strategies for providing portable, inclusive supports within general education classrooms, promoting both academic success and belonging for all students.

Beyond Buy-In: Shifting Mindsets to Lead Inclusive Change

In this special episode, three essential mindset shifts every school administrator must make to lead real, lasting inclusive change are shared. You’ll learn why it’s time to move beyond "buy-in," how simple shifts can spark massive results, and how to lead from a place of commitment, not just compliance.

Why Fewer Directions Lead to Better Learning

Overloading students with verbal directions can hold them back. This episode shares a simple formula to reduce auditory overload, foster critical thinking, and encourage autonomy. Learn strategies to lower stress, strengthen relationships, and improve engagement, backed by real-life examples.

Meaningful IEPs: Quality Over Quantity

Writing IEPs can feel overwhelming, but focusing on quality over quantity makes all the difference. This episode introduces the Four Filters framework to identify meaningful, impactful goals that drive progress for students. Avoid common pitfalls, use our litmus test for IEP-worthy goals, and transform your approach to writing IEPs.

Differentiation Secrets Every Teacher Needs to Know

Discover how differentiation transforms classrooms into spaces where all students thrive. This episode dives into strategies to meet diverse needs, build equity, and foster inclusion, including an unforgettable activity to explain fairness. Whether you’re new to teaching or experienced, these tips will help you create a dynamic, equitable classroom.

Language That Lifts: Writing IEPs That Inspire Possibility

The words we use about students shape their futures. This episode explores how to shift from deficit-based language to strength-focused narratives in IEPs and educational reports, empowering students and inspiring possibility. Learn practical strategies like the "Language That Lifts" approach, reframing lead words into gold statements, and why focusing on strengths matters.

The Training Your Paras Need— And What School Leaders Can Do Today

Paraprofessionals are vital threads in creating inclusive schools, yet they are often the least trained and most undervalued individuals in the system.
Training and retaining paraprofessionals is a critical step for school leaders to foster inclusion without needing extensive resources.
Strategies such as "lifelines" and "32 ways to increase para retention" provide practical solutions that can be implemented immediately.

Why Behavior Charts Fail and What to Do Instead

Behavior charts and other public behavior management tools can damage trust, create fear, and undermine relationships in classrooms. Julie and Kristie discuss why it’s time to replace these outdated systems and share nine practical, inclusive alternatives to support all students

Recognizing and Reducing Stressors: Tools for Teachers and Administrators

Today, we're unpacking the impact of stressors on student behavior and learning. Join us as we explore the four domains of stressors—biological, emotional, cognitive, and social—and reveal how they shape actions in the classroom. We’ll also share 10 strategies to help reduce stressors and support a more inclusive environment.

How to Communicate the Shift to Inclusive Education to Families

In this episode, we tackle a common question: How do we explain to families that moving toward more inclusive educational services isn’t about reducing support, but rather enhancing their child’s experience? We discuss strategies for effectively communicating the benefits of inclusion, grounded in the principles of IDEA and FAPE, and provide 20 talking points to help educators answer families' concerns.

The Educator’s Lifeline: 10 Strategies to Support Challenging Behaviors

In this episode, we explore how educators can navigate challenging behaviors in the classroom using the 'Boat Captain' analogy. We discuss how to support students in moments of fight, flight, freeze, or faint and share 10 lifeline strategies to help bring them back to a ready state. Tune in to learn how to stay anchored and create a safe, inclusive environment for all learners.

Understanding LRE and Its Role in Supporting All Learners

In this episode, we explore how educators can navigate challenging behaviors in the classroom using the 'Boat Captain' analogy. We discuss how to support students in moments of fight, flight, freeze, or faint and share 10 lifeline strategies to help bring them back to a ready state. Tune in to learn how to stay anchored and create a safe, inclusive environment for all learners.

The Recipe for Real Inclusion: 9 Must-Have Ingredients

What does true inclusion in education look like? In this episode, we break down the nine essential ingredients needed to create a genuinely inclusive environment. From redesigning systems to partnering with families, we share actionable insights and strategies to help schools embrace and implement inclusive practices

Yes! Even students with VERY complex communication needs, with Darlene Hanson (part 2)

This is the second part of my conversation with Darlene Hanson. It is for the most challenging students in our system. Listen and share with everyone you know who supports students without verbal communication.  Darlene Hanson and I are finally teaming up together to work on the concept of inclusion with students with limited communication. Can't wait to let these episodes (episode 27 and 28) take flight in the world.

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