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In each 15-minute episode, we dive into the heart of inclusive education, offering expert insights, real-world strategies, and answers to burning questions on how to make every classroom welcoming for all students, PreK-12. From redefining what special education is (and isn’t) to understanding Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) and exploring cutting-edge co-teaching practices, we cover the essential topics that help schools transform.

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Completing Unpreferred Tasks Should NOT Be an IEP Goal

Is “doing hard things” really the right benchmark for students with disabilities? In this episode, Julie and Kristie challenge the idea that completing unpreferred tasks is an appropriate, or meaningful, IEP goal. They explore what makes a goal truly inclusive and share a simple way to shift from compliance-based goals to ones that support access, autonomy, and real learning.

Special Episode You Say You’re Inclusive… But Your System Says Otherwise

You say you’re inclusive—but what does your system actually show? In this special episode, Julie and Kristie unpack seven clear indicators that reveal whether a school is truly inclusive or just aspiring to be, from unclear definitions to practices that unintentionally exclude students. You’ll walk away with practical ways to spot misalignment and take immediate steps toward meaningful, system-wide change.

The Inclusive Schedule Trap: What Schools Keep Getting Wrong—and What to Do Instead

Too often, what looks like an inclusive schedule on paper falls apart in practice. In this episode, Kristie and Julie explain the common traps teams fall into when creating student schedules—and how to build ones that truly support belonging and participation. You’ll learn how to spot “support-based scheduling” and replace it with a plan that centers access, collaboration, and student needs.

Steal This Script: How Leaders Talk About Inclusive Education

In this episode, Julie and Kristie reveal the exact words school leaders can use to promote inclusion with clarity, confidence, and compassion. From responding to resistance to inspiring buy-in, you'll get ready-to-use scripts and strategies for navigating tough conversations about inclusive practices. Whether you’re a principal, coach, or advocate, you’ll leave feeling prepared to lead with language that unites.

The Relationship Behind the Roles: Co-Teaching That Clicks

Before you can have trust, share a classroom, or divide lessons, you have to build a relationship. In this episode, Kristie and Julie explore what makes co-teaching work—from shared routines to honest conversations—and why relational trust is the foundation of everything. You’ll get practical ways to deepen connection with your co-teacher, whether you’re starting fresh or have worked together for years.

Read the Room, Regulate Yourself: What to Do When Behavior Escalate

When a student yells, swears, withdraws, or melts down, it’s not about control—it’s about regulation. In this episode, Julie and Kristie share how to shift from managing behavior to calming nervous systems in the moment. Learn 20 real-time strategies that help de-escalate intense situations with compassion, not compliance.

A Para Is Not an Environment: Clearing Up the LRE Confusion

There’s a lot of confusion around what Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) really means—especially when paraprofessional support is part of the plan. In this episode, Julie and Kristie clarify how LRE works under IDEA, why needing support doesn’t mean a student should be removed, and how we can shift from gatekeeping to problem-solving. You’ll walk away with language, mindset shifts, and team questions that build a stronger culture of inclusion.

We’re Doing Breaks Wrong—and It’s Backfiring

When students are dysregulated, offering a break can feel like the right move—but is it always helpful? In this episode, Kristie and Julie unpack how well-meaning adult-led breaks can unintentionally reinforce escape patterns or erode access to learning. You’ll learn how to offer breaks with purpose, equity, and intention—so students stay connected, not sent away. Classroom behavior breaks are often used to manage student behavior, but when used incorrectly, they can unintentionally reduce access, learning, and belonging.

Design Before Discipline: How to Prevent Behavior with Simple Shifts

Before behavior escalates, the classroom environment can do the heavy lifting. In this episode, Julie and Kristie share 16 proactive tweaks that help prevent challenging behavior by reducing stress and increasing connection. From visual supports to relationship rituals, these simple shifts make classrooms calmer and more inclusive for everyone.

F%$# you! Now what?

When a student swears at you or lashes out, it’s easy to react. In this powerful episode, Julie and Kristie help you build a personalized response plan that prioritizes connection, not punishment—even in moments of shock or hurt. Discover mantras, phrases, and actions to keep dignity and trust at the center.

Non-Verbal Ways to Support Behavior in the Moment

What your body says in the classroom matters just as much as your words—sometimes more. In this episode, Julie and Kristie break down how your posture, pace, tone, and eye contact can either regulate or escalate behavior. Learn to scan your body and send signals of safety and calm.

Mini-Moments that Matter: Building Trust Without Tons of Time

Building trust with students doesn’t require big gestures—it’s about intentional mini moments woven into everyday interactions. Julie and Kristie share 23 simple ways to connect with students while teaching, even in packed classrooms. Learn how quick check-ins can boost regulation, trust, and inclusion.

Stop Looking for a Trigger: What Behavior is Really Communicating

Sometimes behavior isn’t about a trigger—it’s about what’s happening beneath the surface. In this episode, Julie and Kristie unpack why searching for a single cause of behavior often leads us in the wrong direction, and how we can shift to listening beneath behavior instead. Learn how to identify the real messages behind actions like yelling out or withdrawing, and respond with empathy and clarity.

Inclusion and Safety Can Coexist

This courageous and nuanced conversation dives into one of the biggest fears around inclusion: safety. Julie and Kristie name the fear, challenge ableist assumptions, and provide seven steps to help educators feel equipped, empowered, and proactive when facing concerns about safety in inclusive settings. With humor and honesty, they tackle myths, share research-backed practices, and guide listeners through a shift from exclusion-based thinking to supportive, inclusive responses.

The Behavior Reset Every School Leader Needs

Ever wish you could shift the emotional climate in your classroom? In this episode, we explore co-regulation—and how educators act like thermostats, adjusting conditions so every student can learn and connect. Small shifts can create big changes. The download offers simple, brain-based strategies that show you how to act as a thermostat — adjusting the emotional environment with intention, not reacting to behaviors alone.

Paraprofessionals: How to Hide in Plain Sight

Julie and Kristie explore how paraprofessional support can be both effective and unobtrusive. With humor, heart, and powerful metaphors (yes, including Harry Potter's invisibility cloak!), they unpack what it means for paraprofessionals to “hide in plain sight.” The episode offers strategies to increase student independence, dignity, and social connection by camouflaging support and avoiding over-reliance. With resources like “20 Ways to Provide Invisible Support” and “110 Ways Paras Can Help,” this episode is full of practical tools and radical shifts in mindset.

Shifting School Culture

In this episode, Julie and Kristie invite listeners to put on their creativity hats and explore five small yet powerful shifts that can profoundly improve school culture. They focus on the “feel” of a school—how it welcomes students, families, and educators—and how small tweaks, like changing a sign from “You are late” to “We’re glad you’re here,” can radically shift emotional tone and engagement. From morning greetings to creative cafeteria strategies, this episode empowers listeners to build inclusive culture through intentional micro-moves

10 Quick Inclusion Wins: Reset and Refresh

Feeling like your inclusive practices need a boost? You're not alone—and you're in the right place. In this energizing episode, Julie and Kristie share 10 quick inclusion wins that can help you reset, refresh, and re-engage at any point in the school year. Whether it’s the start of a new term or you’re navigating a mid-year slump, these simple but powerful strategies are designed to rebuild relationships with students and staff, add novelty and choice to assignments, rethink participation beyond “raise and respond,” realign and clarify roles with paraprofessionals, and celebrate the progress you’ve already made. Each idea comes with practical tools and bonus resources, including a jam-packed downloadable guide full of embedded supports and strategies. It’s like hitting a reset button for your inclusive classroom or school.

Multisensory Magic: Co-Teaching On the Fly with One Teach, One Make

In this episode, we dive into an easy, fun, and highly inclusive co-teaching move: One Teach, One Make Multisensory. Sharing real-world examples and practical tips, we show how pairing direct instruction with multisensory experiences can transform engagement and access for all learners. Whether it’s adding props, movement, music, or visuals, this is how a low-prep strategy brings novelty, creativity, and deeper connection into any lesson—on the fly or with a little planning.

You are the Thermostat

Ever wish you could shift the emotional climate in your classroom? In this episode, we explore co-regulation—and how educators act like thermostats, adjusting conditions so every student can learn and connect. Small shifts can create big changes. The download offers simple, brain-based strategies that show you how to act as a thermostat — adjusting the emotional environment with intention, not reacting to behaviors alone.

Praise and Rewards

Today we’re questioning everything we thought we knew about praise, rewards, and punishment. Are these tools really helping—or are they hurting our efforts to build safe, inclusive classrooms? Let’s dig into what connection-centered support can look like instead.

Support is a Verb— Not a Human

When most people hear the word inclusion… they immediately say-- “then we need more support”. And what they mean is more paraprofessionals. In this podcast, we will explore this big idea… support isn’t a person—it’s what we do to help students access learning. In this episode, we rethink support as a dynamic, flexible action that starts before, during, and after a lesson. Join us to discover simple ways to make support smarter, without hiring more people.

Finding the Just Right Challenge: Introducing the Zigzag Equalizer

In this episode, Julie and Kristie take on a question that educators are often asked to justify excluding students with disabilities: “But what will they get out of this class?” Through real-life stories—including a powerful example of Stephanie's success with Romeo and Juliet—they reveal why this question is misguided and provide 20 practical responses to advocate for inclusion

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